
I’ve never been your average Eurovision fan.
Consequently, I was probably one of a few people absolutely delighted with a Swedish win in Liverpool for the simple reason that the BBC would be handing over production duties to one of the most competent production houses in the EBU network, that of Sweden’s public broadcaster SVT.
SVT have had a long track record in Eurovision, helping several of the early Eastern European winners in the 2000’s with technical resources but also delivering some memorable contests such as 1985, 2000, 2013 and fan-favourite 2016 where the bar was only really matched by the BBC this year.
One thing SVT has been known for in their past two productions is re-inventing the wheel somewhat. In 2013 they introduced the producer-decided running order (with countries drawing which halves they participate in.) This made for a better television viewing experience as you could curate a much better flow of styles, moods, tempos, groups vs. soloists, men vs. women, etc. The random draw gave juxtapositions no sane producer would otherwise make (such as the UK drawing first in 2012, forcing the show to open with a ballad.)
The caveat to this is that the host broadcaster still must draw their own entry at random (and in the case of proxy hosting, the reigning champions) however I would welcome allowing the host entry to go last after how well this worked on-screen in Liverpool, ending the show with a jubilant local crowd.
Their second innovation came when they hosted three years later, adopting the voting system from their national final Melodifestivalen. The Jury and Public scores would now be presented separately, meaning that it is only at the last moment that the winner is confirmed. The system was refined further by Israeli broadcaster KAN in 2019. In previous contests, a landslide winner meant that it could be mathematically impossible for any other country to overtake them as early as two-thirds of the way though the voting sequence. This sucked the energy out of the final 20-30 minutes of the programme.
This time round, SVT want to give us a shorter, tighter show. Rumours of this have abounded for a while, with the returning producer Christer Björkman having confirmed that it is a goal to create a tighter show.

Some Eurovision fans don’t like this idea and believe the show should be longer than the near 4 hours & 15 minutes marathon the BBC laid on in Liverpool. I disagree. A lot of Eurovision fans don’t understand television; a tighter programme is far better for the viewers at home. Nobody’s saying it needs to be done-and-dusted within the hour, but I do think a 3 hours & 30 minutes final is something SVT and the EBU should both be working towards.
The best bit is, it’s completely possible.
The wonderful ESC Home has a database on the length of various aspects of all 67 productions thus far. Let’s look at the timings and see if it can be done.
Opening/Flag Parade etc.
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a “Swedophobic” section of Eurovision fans. These people wish to see the back of the flag parade, another SVT invention (although it was originally done as a one-off by Germany’s ARD back in 1983, which was a very long production for the era.) I don’t think it’s that much of an issue and it sets the show’s narrative up very nicely.

Now, granted, the BBC took until 00:20.14 into the show to begin the first tone of the first song. That’s only eclipsed by the marathon openings of Lausanne 1989 (where Celine Dion performed both her winning song and her English debut single) and the epic Vienna 2015, which lacked a better editor to be perfectly honest. In the BBC’s defence, they had to get Ukrainian alumni into the production somehow.
However, Rotterdam 2021 got things going at 00:09.53 including a flag parade, voting info, a “isn’t it nice to be back” and a nice opening film. That’s the way to do it. So, I’m saying 10:00 for the opening is enough.
The Songs
One bone of contention recently is the creep-in of complex staging. Nevertheless, despite the bloat of their 2015 production, Austria’s ORF got through 27 songs in 01:51.31. It took Italy’s RAI 01:57.35 to get through 25 in Turin last year. From speaking to delegation members (I stayed with several in my hotel in Liverpool) one senior person described RAI’s organisation as “Quite problematic.” That said, the BBC took 01:56.45 to get through 26 songs so it would be lazy of me to just blame RAI for typically Italian chaos. (I have an Italian stepfamily and they’ve not disagreed with me on certain elements of Turin, or indeed RAI’s previous hosting, the infamous Rome 1991.)

However, it took Portugal’s RTP 01:52.02 to deliver 26 songs In Lisbon in 2018. Not only was Lisbon a prop-heavy year as the set featured no LED video walls, but the figure also includes Filomena Cautela’s improvised Green Room interviews in the wake of the incident involving the British singer SuRie. So, I’m prepared to say 01:55.00 is ample time to get 26 songs away.
Remember that the BBC, RAI and RTP timings also include 4 minutes’ worth of preemptable content to allow commercially funded broadcasters to air advertising.
The Interval
This is where the real bloat has come. ESC Home quotes “duration of interval” as from the end of the last song, to calling up the first country in the voting linkups.
The longest interval ever comes from KAN, who over-ordered on acts whilst the “will-she-won’t-she” game with Madonna was going on. With Madonna eventually making an appearance (I know, we try to forget) the interval went on 01:04.10. Rotterdam 2021 is second (00:53.57) then we get onto two of the three shows featuring the most revered interval acts of all time.
In third place, Stockholm 2016 (Love Love Peace Peace) was a 00:52.06 affair, which also featured a world premiere of Justin Timberlake’s Can’t Stop The Feeling (which unlike Madge gave him a Number 1 all over Europe) new material from outgoing champion Måns Zelmerlöw, a mockumentary called The Nerd Nation and a short film paying homage to Sweden’s pop music heritage since 1974.

In fourth place is this year’s production (Liverpool Songbook) at 00:51.46. Whilst this was a particularly long feature, the BBC also included Graham Norton interviewing Harrogate 1982 host Jan Leeming, Juilia Sanina chatting with displaced Ukrainians, a film about the voting sequence by Ukrainian commentator Timur Myroshnychenko, and new material from the outgoing British runner-up Sam Ryder.
One of the big issues in the interval currently is the need for three recaps. We don’t need them. Two will do, as it does in the semi finals. Lose one, and you’ve clawed back 6 or 7 minutes (2016 was the last to feature two recaps; SVT simply delivered more content in that window with KAN/NOS/BBC having at least a third of their intervals being taken up by the three recaps.)
Kyiv 2017 is the shortest interval of the “split result” era at 00:41.32, but the first to introduce a third recap.
The 2013 production in next year’s host city, Malmö, had merely a 00:37.40 interval. That included two recaps, a song-and-dance routine from host Petra Mede, Loreen performing new material, a film on the history of the competition and even Sarah Dawn “Lynda Woodruff” Finer doing an ABBA cover as herself. Oh, and we had a short chat with the 2011 Swedish contestant, the popular Eric Saade. Even then, I reckon that’s boilable down to the half-an-hour or so in Oslo 2010 (00:30.39) or Baku (00:30.29).
The interval currently includes one advertising window of 8 minutes. Whilst the BBC avoided putting anything particularly interesting in this section, the decision to load it with dispensable filler slowed down what was otherwise a slick, if long, production in my opinion – especially as domestic viewers don’t leave the world feed for advertising.
RAI were smart with this and split the 8-minute windows into two, with a guest performance in the first 4 minutes, then a short “opt out now” sting followed by 4 minutes of filler; so, if broadcasters didn’t need all 8 minutes (very few of them actually do) then they could still air the guest performance and get the adverts away, which was how Italian viewers saw the Turin show. I’m surprised the BBC didn’t try this, with Sam Ryder in the first half, before the displaced Ukrainians and a VT in the second.
The Voting
The post-2016 split system, refined in 2019, does limit comparable productions but the shortest of these under the current system was, in fact, the debut: Tel Aviv 2019 delivered the voting in 00:49.44. So, I’m saying 50:00 for the voting.

The voting windows currently include one advertising window of 2 minutes.
Due to the way ESC Home calculates timings, for the avoidance of doubt the closing of the lines and the “Good to Go” are considered part of the interval.
I don’t think realistically you can get the winner’s walk down too much, although the BBC approach of having the international presenters say nothing, instead leaving an instrumental window for the commentators to reveal where the viewers gave their public points and sum up the night, made for a much better production than hearing the hosts find 78 ways to say “the winner is Loreen from Sweden!”
That leaves us something a bit like this (all times BST.)
- 20:00 Te Deum / Opening / Flag Parade
- 20:10 SONGS (including 2 x 2min ad break)
- 22:05 Interval (2 recaps only + 8 min ad break)
- 22:35 Voting (including 2min ad break)
- 23:25 Winner’s Walk + Interview
- 23:30 Reprise / Credits
- 23:33 OFF AIR
What do you think? Is a tighter show better for us all, or does quantity bring quality? Let me know your thoughts.


